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Apple now worth more than Microsoft

by Scott Bicheno on 27 May 2010, 10:07

Tags: Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL), Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT)

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End of an era

The stock markets are a bet on the future, not the present. Analysts, traders, fund-managers, etc all earn obscene amounts of money trying to predict whether stocks, bonds and commodities will go up in value and purchase/advise accordingly.

As has been extensively documented on this site, Apple is setting the pace as the technology industry moves into the mobile Internet era, while Microsoft is struggling to diversify away from its reliance on the traditional PC market. If you want a perfect illustration of where the market thinks things are headed, the news that Apple's market cap overtook Microsoft's yesterday is it.

If you wanted to buy all of Apple's shares right now, it will cost you $222 billion, whereas Microsoft's would set you back a mere $219 billion. It was only back in March that we wrote about Apple breaking the $200 billion market cap. At the time, Microsoft's market cap was $256 billion, so this symbolic moment owes as much to Microsoft's decline as Apple's rise.

For further symbolism, look at what the two companies are currently doing in the tablet space. Apple can't seem to make enough iPads to keep up with demand, while Microsoft boss Steve Ballmer has felt forced to get rid of the people running its devices arm and personal contol of it in a bid to get things back on track.

Note the P/E (price to earnings) ratio in the Google Finance screen shots below. This represents the ratio between the price of the shares and the annual profit per share - in other words: how many years of profit at the current rate it would take you to recoup your initial outlay.

Companies typically trade at a P/E of around 15. Deviation above this number indicates perceived higher earnings growth potential, and below the opposite. Yesterday, Apple's P/E was 20.72, while Microsoft's was 12.93. Nuff said.

 

 

 



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Note the P/E (price to earnings) ratio in the Google Finance screen shots below. This represents the ratio between the price of the shares and the annual profit per share - in other words: how many years of profit at the current rate it would take you to recoup your initial outlay.

Companies typically trade at a P/E of around 15. Deviation above this number indicates perceived higher earnings growth potential, and below the opposite. Yesterday, Apple's P/E was 20.72, while Microsoft's was 12.93. Nuff said.
Sure that's not the wrong way around? A lower value means it takes less time to recoup your outlay, ie the business is more profitable per share. By that measure MS is more profitable than usual, while Apple is much less.

Unless you're saying that because the profit is so low, investors are speculating that it will increase in the future.
kalniel
Sure that's not the wrong way around? A lower value means it takes less time to recoup your outlay, ie the business is more profitable per share. By that measure MS is more profitable than usual, while Apple is much less.

Unless you're saying that because the profit is so low, investors are speculating that it will increase in the future.

We're both right. For the share price to be driven up to a level where it's less profitable per share indicates anticipated growth - i.e. the P/E ratio will get smaller in future, which is why they're buying now.
It's not the comparison it once was when both companies were mostly limited to the desktop PC market.

These days much of Apple's market cap is down the success if iPhones, iPods, iTunes etc rather than Mac computers and OS. They still only command a fairly small shared of the PC/laptop hardware market, and a single digit share in OS, browsers etc.

Microsoft on the other hand are still firmly rooted in Windows and desktop/laptop/server applications, sure they have sidelines in mobiles, Zune etc but they are only small players there.

It's more like two giants playing in a yard all of there own, who occasionally pop over the fence to collect their ball and have a quick kick-about while they are there….
Scott B;1929315
We're both right. For the share price to be driven up to a level where it's less profitable per share indicates anticipated growth - i.e. the P/E ratio will get smaller in future, which is why they're buying now.
high PER does not just indicate implied growth, it can indicate many things.

People expect better results, if a company has under performed it will have a high PER when annualised with a non div yielding earning.

Its a bit hard to compare a growth stock and a div stock on these metrics without understanding how one calc's ‘earnings’….
I wonder if someone could invent an anti-RDF emitter.