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Mozilla CEO slams Apple Safari move

by Scott Bicheno on 24 March 2008, 22:57

Tags: Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL)

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Stealthy Safari

The CEO of Mozilla, the company that makes popular web-browser Firefox, has condemned the inclusion of Apple’s own web-browser – Safari – as a default download for anyone using the Apple Software Update service, regardless of whether they already have Safari installed.

In reference to this practice, Lilly (pictured) said on his blog: ‘…the likely behavior here is for users to just click “Install 2 items,” which means that they’ve now installed a completely new piece of software, quite possibly completely unintentionally.

‘Apple has made it incredibly easy – the default, even – for users to install ride along software that they didn’t ask for, and maybe didn’t want. This is wrong, and borders on malware distribution practices.

‘It’s wrong because it undermines the trust that we’re all trying to build with users. Because it means that an update isn’t just an update, but is maybe something more. Because it ultimately undermines the safety of users on the web by eroding that relationship. It’s a bad practice and should stop.’

Strong stuff – and the subject of over 300 comments since Lilly posted the blog entry on 21st March. Many of these must have accused Lilly of sour grapes in the face of increased competition because he was moved to stress in a subsequent post on the 23rd that he welcomes competition.

‘Competition – and choice – is central to everything we do; without it, we’re nowhere,’ he insisted.

HEXUS.channel can confirm that it nearly unwittingly downloaded Safari when presented with this dialogue box:

We would like to know what HEXUS readers think. Is this sneaky by Apple or fair enough? Is Lilly right to say it’s wrong? Should companies be allowed to introduce new software in update releases? Is ticking the box next to Safari wrong? Please state your opinion in our poll.



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Let us know what you think about Apple's decision to add a Safari download to its iTunes and QuickTime update - and to select it as a default.

You can select more that one option in the attatched poll.
I had that the other day…

I was really annoyed with it since I don't use it… the worst thing is even if you deselect it and only update iTunes/Quicktime it still comes back saying you have a piece of software to update… it's damn annoying.
I have to agree i think its sneaky but this kind of thing has sneaked into a lot of software in one form or other over the years, Eg google's ever growing list of tools and all the crap that comes with msn live messenger nowadays. The difference of the box is actually ticked as default with the apple update is the thing which separates it.

Personally i hate using apple software on windows, it has always been problematic for me and i have always tried to use the alternatives. For someone like me who now only uses quicktime as the alternative codecs dont seem to work with editing software and refuses to have itunes or safari… i see it as malware. Why do apple seem to think they have THE RIGHT to have their software on your computer?

On my macbook of course it is a little different though:mrgreen:
Very sneaky, this attitude of boxes being ticked by default (not just in this case, but on lots of software installers/updaters) needs to stop. Apple software is bad enough on Windows, installing services and system tray icons that don't need to be there. They're just making themselves look worse.
Microsoft get massive fines for including media player in windows do they not? Why not apple?